Dialogue
Community refers to four
visions that stem from the new practice of DEPTH Dialogue. These are
deep formative intentions (what Socrates and Plato called ideas) that push forward into the
future
to be manifested and realized:
1. A Network
Of Peer-To-Peer DEPTH Dialogue Guidance
2.
Relationships Based On True Loving Friendship
3. A True
Partnership Culture
4. A
New Platonic Academy Based On
DEPTH Dialogue
Here is the vision for each of these:
1. A Network Of
Peer-To-Peer DEPTH Dialogue Guidance
DEPTH Dialogue is
true friendship. It is not primarily a profession or a teaching. It
does not require the dialogue guide to be in any kind of superior
position, as do traditional teaching and therapy modes. It does not
even require the guide to be self-realized. Self-realization naturally
results from the practice of DEPTH Dialogue, but this is a built-in
feature of the very dynamics of the practice and does not require any
special qualities be present in the guide.
All that is required to do good DEPTH Dialogue guidance is loving
friendship for the student, knowledge of the elements, practice in the
art, and true, deep, personal experience in the process. Anyone with
sincerity and focus can do this if they want to.
Because of this, DEPTH Dialogue can be done in a peer-to-peer manor as
well as in a professional practice. People can guide each other, either
as the only means of doing DEPTH Dialogue, or as an adjunct to getting
more expert guidance from a more highly skilled guide.
This would be an exceptionally good way to do this because it would
allow diligent students to proceed very quickly through the process to
full creative self-realization by participating in dialogues regularly
and frequently on a cost-free basis.
The other factor that would make this advantageous to the diligent
student is that the guide benefits more from doing the practice than
the student does. This is because experientially truth-centered
passionate love-radiance is initially more activated in the process of
giving friendship and guidance than it is in the process of merely
following guidance. (This is thoroughly elucidated in Plato's Alcibiades Major,
where passionate love
radiance is called eros, and
experiential truth-centeredness is called sophrosyne. See the commentary on
that Dialogue for a full discussion of these crucial ideas.)
Back-and-forth guidance and help also encourages, awakens and activates
true deep loving friendships based on equal partnership. It may be one
of the best ways to foster true sharing friendships, deep intimate love
relationships and deep community love-connections and harmony. (See the
topics that follow for more on each of these.)
Because of this, training in peer-to-peer DEPTH Dialogue guidance, as
well as training for trainers in this, is something that is planned.
See the section on Training for
information on this (when it becomes available.)
2. Relationships
Based On True Loving Friendship
Relationships
based on the structure of the ego-self can never be truly loving, truly
intimate or deeply sharing. They can therefore never be truly genuine
or satisfying.
The limited ego-self relates from images, internal representations,
dramatized charged-up emotions, and belief systems based on these. This
is relating to an object of your own mind rather than to a real live
aware experiencing other being. Like all relating to objects, it
carries the ego-mind's primary intention of manipulating that object
for its own satisfaction and self-centered goals.
This is not an evil intention. It is just a fundamental trait of the
deepest level of the ego structure. It is what we all learn as a matter
of growing up. It is necessary for adaptation to the physical world,
where manipulation of objects, in certain contexts, can be useful. It
is also necessary for the development of cognitive abilities, most
especially the intellectual ability to differentiate and discriminate.
And this ability is actually a crucial prerequisite for being able to
do the kind of deep self-exploration that DEPTH Dialogue uses.
So, you actually need to have developed a high degree of ego-self
abilities in order to do the deep self-exploration that allows you to
transcend the ego-self. This deep self-exploration leading to
ego-transcendence is what leads you into greater and greater abilities
to really and truly love, to really and truly relate "I" to "I" with
another alive aware experiencing feeling human being, not as an object
to manipulate or exploit but as an inner connectedness.
Because of this, one way of looking at DEPTH Dialogue is that it is
training and practice for true deep loving relationships, whether these
be friendships, business relationships, community ties and dialogue,
romantic/sexual relationships, marriage, child-rearing, really engaging
education, truer, deeper psychotherapy or counseling, or whatever.
Relationship that goes beyond the ego-self's object manipulation is
always based on dialogue. Dialogue that engages true feelings and
honors the inner integrity of each person is the necessary foundation.
Beyond that, dialogue that touches into the deepest, truest inner
experiencing is even richer and fuller, more loving and more satisfying
for both person's. Dialogue that awakens and activates the truest,
deepest Self toward full creative self-realization, is the best because
it fulfills the deepest inherent longings for the fullest kind of
creative life that there is in all of us. DEPTH Dialogue is this last
kind of dialogue.
DEPTH Dialogue, therefore, is a way of finding the deepest kind of
loving friendship that is possible for the greatest possible kind of
joy and fulfillment in life. It would therefore be extremely useful to
practice it as an essential part of any and all relationships. Because
of its nature and what it accomplishes, it will completely and totally
transform any relationship in the most profound way.
DEPTH Dialogue produces relationships based on true loving intimacy and
friendship.
3.
A True Partnership Culture
The societies and cultures that we have in the modern world have been
developed from the ego-self's object manipulation abilities. This is
most evident in the advanced technologies that we have. We can
manipulate objects to land on Mars, roam around there and send back
pictures and geological data. We have a vast worldwide computer network
that allows spam to be flood our e-mail boxes on a daily basis. We have
great industries that produce wonders as well as pollution that
threatens life on earth.
It has been said that humankind has progressed greatly in technology in
the last 2000 years but not one little bit in the ability to deal with
that technology or its consequences. It is obvious that technology has
advanced but why has there been no seeming advance in human ability to
deal with technology or to relate better with one another?
This is because the development of object manipulation in a culture
corresponds to that same development in an individual. It is one stage
of development. It must happen in a sequence, following previous stages
and playing itself out into completion before the next stage can start.
The present world culture is at a very advanced stage of development
corresponding to the "formal operations" level of human individual
development (see the Introduction section for
an explanation of this.) This does not mean that every individual has
reached this stage. It simply means that the leading edge of cultural
development, where innovations affecting everyone else take place, is
at that stage. It is being played out to the max right now.
This maximum edge of the "formal operations" culture has been called
"the Dominator Culture." This is because the object manipulation that
characterizes this stage has as its primary directive the manipulation
and exploitation of objects for its own self-centered ends. In other
words, it seeks to dominate objects. To do this it first makes objects
to dominate. This means that it objectifies everything and everyone
that comes into its scope of attention. It also means that it tries to
bring as much as possible into its scope of attention in order to
dominate. Other people, natural resources, political, social, economic
and religious systems, and on and on. Domination has its own
ineluctable internal logic, and that is -- dominate as much as you can as quickly as
you can!
Just as in the stages of human development there comes a time when the
natural dynamic tensions in the old way of doing things becomes so
great that it puts a seemingly unbearable strain on the system itself.
The system starts to disintegrate through the ultimate unfolding of its
own internal logic. There is only so far that it can go. Then, now,
something must change radically and fundamentally.
We see this all over the world at present. Ecological crisis, economic
chaos factors in the financial markets threaten to collapse the whole
system, huge grass-roots movements of deprived peoples in "undeveloped"
countries challenging the old men of the World Bank, the IMF,
multi-national corporations, etc. etc. In the face of this, the old
boys world order is making last-ditch desperate attempts to hold onto
its grip on the old system. The trouble with this attempt is that the
system they are attempting to hold onto is crumbling as they are
grasping at it. They continue in their old ways because that is all
they know how to do. They are dinosaurs in a world that has already
made them extinct. Their demise just has to play itself out in the
aspect of time.
What is emerging is what has been called "a Partnership Culture."
Instead of the old model of "dominate all you can as quick as you can"
there is a new model of doing things that is based on real human beings
relating to other real human beings face-to-face, eye-to-eye and
feeling-to-feeling. It is a new culture based on real human
relationships rather than on domination, manipulation and exploitation.
The Partnership Culture as it is today is the very first delicate
beginnings of the stage of development beyond the Dominator Culture
that developed out of the "formal operations" level of ego development.
It is not well-formed and strong because it is so new, and the old ways
are so entrenched. Any new stage of development in human development
starts off in fits and starts, sometimes retreating to the old ways out
of fear and need for old forms of comfort. The new ways are at first
vague because we are just groping. This is something we don't know,
haven't done before, haven't even seen before. Any new experience or
action takes getting used to.
The other big reason why the new Partnership Culture is at present so
vague and formless in comparison to the old Dominator Culture is that
changes in stages of development naturally meet with separation anxiety
and disintegration anxiety. This happens for individuals, and it is now
happening for an entire culture. This is why the 20th Century was
called the "age of anxiety." The 21st Century hasn't started out any
better. We seem to have come collectively into a sort of "age of
desperation." All systems are seemingly breaking down. There is
widespread apathy, numbness, addiction, self-drugging of all kinds.
Most all of the desperation is denied and masked, but it is seething
beneath the surface. People are not happy, while large numbers of
people in the affluent countries are pretending to be, are pretending
that their possessions and moneyed social status is the same thing as
happiness. Lives of "quiet desperation" as Thoreau called it.
In any transition in normal human development there are devices and
institutions of society that help a person through the transition and
through the natural anxieties that the transition engenders. These
include family, friends, schools, religion, etc. etc.
The same thing happens on a cultural level, as new members of society
are brought into the fold of higher levels of culture. We all learn
what it is to be civilized, according to the standards that have been
set down generation to generation.
What is happening at the present time is that world culture is going
through a major developmental transition, but there are no institutions
or social devices to help it through that transition. All the social
means of civilizing young ones are set up to enculturate them into the
5000 year old Dominator Culture. These devices cannot and will not
serve to help in the transition beyond themselves. The culture is
therefore a ship at sea, and the seas are becoming very rough. And
there are no lighthouses to show the way into a safe port.
This is not a necessary state of affairs. Just because there is no
cultural guidance for the presently called-for transition in the
devices of the modern world does not mean that this never existed. In
fact, this existed in the classical world of ancient Greece in the form
of Plato's Dialectic and Plato's Academy. These cultural forms were
fully developed at that time and guided individuals beyond the
dominator ways of the formal operations way of being. Plato's Academy
was in continuous operation for more than 1000 years, with both men and
women learning and teaching, in true partnership ways. Transitions to
many stages beyond formal operations were guided and attained there.
The ways taught at Plato's Academy never became a wide-spread cultural
norm. This was probably because the dominator culture was still
relatively new on a historical basis. This means that the leading edge
of cultural innovation was just starting to become of a formal
operations type. This, then, also means that there were only a very few
who had reached that level. The vast majority of the others were on
lower levels. Most were on very much lower levels. Hallucinatory
consciousness dominated the ancient world. Most were slaves or
servants. Only the very wealthy had the education that would bring them
to the formal operations level. People who got there were the radical
innovators of their day.
Today, the number of people who are on a high enough level to be able
to go into higher stages of development is vastly greater than in
antiquity. This is because world population is so much greater and
because education is much more available. This doesn't mean that the
whole world is ready for higher stages but that there is a very large
group that is ready to serve as the vanguard for the transition. This
is always the way that it takes place. There are certain "cultural
creatives" who have the vision, creativity, adventurousness, education
and guts to lead the way into uncharted territories. There are huge
numbers of these people living today. What would it take to put a spark
to this tinder that would light the fire that would spread like a
raging brushfire in dry grasses on the prairie?
It would take the right kind of direction and guidance from where it
always comes from for major transitions. It must come from the right
kind of education. In this case the right kind of education is
education for deep, transformational, transcendent creativity. This is
exactly what Plato's Dialectic provided in the ancient world.
Even though the practices of Plato's Academy never became a cultural
norm they were developed enough to do so. They were strong and clear
and practical. The relatively few people who were part of the Academy
did proceed to higher levels of creative self-realization. The Academy
itself lasted a very long time.
The only record we have of the teachings of Plato's Academy is Plato's
Dialogues. This is probably only a fraction of what was available at
the time, but most of the record were destroyed when the library at
Alexandria was burnt to the ground by cultural dominators of that era.
However, Plato's Dialogues alone have proven to be enough to recover
the cultural guidance that Plato's Academy provided for a clear, smooth
transition to a Partnership Culture. That guidance is in the form of
what Socrates and Plato called the Dialectic. That is what is presented
here as DEPTH Dialogue.
DEPTH Dialogue - the present incarnation of Plato's Dialectic - if it
became a cultural norm, or even if it just had a significant influence
on those on the leading edge of the movement into the new Partnership
Culture, could be the cultural guidance needed at this time in order to
make the much-needed transition.
As pointed out in the preceding topic, DEPTH Dialogue fosters true deep
loving relationships in those who practice it. Having these kind of
relationships is the necessary foundation of a true Partnership
Culture. It cannot come about by just wishing that it were so. It will
not happen just by having warm cuddly feelings of friendship and love.
It won't happen through idealistic philosophies of unconditional love,
gaia theology, new democracy, or any mental projection of the like.
There has to be a concrete practical way for individuals to themselves
transition beyond the formal operations level of domination. Only
individuals who are truly and practically living on the partnership
levels themselves can form a true Partnership Culture.
Only the practical focus and results of DEPTH Dialogue, or something
else like it, can produce individuals who are capable of forming and
participating in the coming Partnership Culture. DEPTH Dialogue can be
a major formative force in that new birth.
4. A New Platonic
Academy Based On
DEPTH Dialogue
As
noted above in the last topic, Plato's Academy lasted over 1000 years,
teaching higher learning into full creative self-realization.
Given the rediscovery of the central feature of that school, Plato's
Dialectic (DEPTH Dialogue) it would now be possible to re-establish a
modern-day version of Plato's Academy, teaching the same path to full
creative self-realization. This school would exist both to teach
individuals and to become an influence on the culture through graduates
who would teach others, and through spreading the word about the
transition to the true Partnership Culture that would be happening in
the school and modeled for the whole culture.
It would be both a school and a model for living in partnership based
on DEPTH Dialogue.
The school would teach peer-to-peer DEPTH Dialogue as well as train
teachers of this. It would teach professional level DEPTH Dialogue for
those who wish to do it on the highest level. It would also train
trainers of teachers for these courses, and then trainers of trainers.
It would thereby develop a whole culture of DEPTH Dialogue education.
No one person would be a guru or leader. It is meant to become
something held in common by the participants, and developed further in
partnership as the community deepens in experience, knowingness and
truth-speaking.
A new Platonic Academy embodying the true deep Socratic Dialectic would
be a working model of the nascent Partnership Culture because it would
have the means of creating true living partnerships as its central
practice. Everything about the Academy is rooted in the very deepest of
true loving dialogue. Every aspect of its teaching is a way of reaching
deeper into the sources of the deepest dialogue. All the forms of its
institutional culture are rooted in real relationships of individuals
living in deep true dialogue, based on constant practice of DEPTH
Dialogue. Everything about it flows in the direction of greater
freedom, love, creativity from the deepest sources, and true power from
within (NOT dominating power.)
This vision is very possible to achieve. DEPTH Dialogue fosters
powerful creativity from within, from the deepest formative forces of
the psyche. These formative forces are what creates all the forms of appearance in the
seeming world. This action is sometime called manifestation. It is not
an act of will but of intention. The level of intentionality that DEPTH
Dialogue reaches is the most basic level of all creation. What is
projected on that level is what happens.
Do you want it to happen? This is not a vision for just one person. It
will take a few others to feel into this and feel it is right for them.
This is an invitation to you to feel into yourself and find out if you
have a true affinity with this. Most will not, but if you do, let's get
together and do this.