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Deep Inwardly Focused Socratic Dialogue

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III. Deep Loving Friendship

How Does All This Happen?


The movement into living the practical Socratic wisdom of true happiness takes place through the simultaneous activation of both Emotional Transcendence and True Self Knowing (as elaborated in the previous section.) Such a profound movement within yourself can happen only through extraordinary circumstances, usually never in the hum-drum of ordinary life. To go so deeply in an integrated way that results in full-feeling self-realization requires something more than the normal events and flow of everyday life.


What Is Needed

What is needed is a way to heighten the emotional vividness of your experiences and deepen your feeling of them, without increasing their emotional charge, i.e. without making the emotions themselves the driving factor. We want to have rich, deep, full feeling in our experiences without dramatizing them. This is because if we dramatize our experiences so as to charge up the emotions in them we loose the opportunity to get the subtle rich nuances of the emotions that would lead us to emotional transcendence into ecstasy. The principle of Dynamic Pattern Transcendence (explained in the next section, 3. Where It Comes From) shows us that only fine differentiation in the process of direct experiencing leads to experiential transcendence. Charged-up emotions block your ability to experience the fine nuances, to make the fine differentiations.


What To Do With Emotions

There are about five broad categories of ways of handling emotions:

1. Suppressing them, or repressing them (a deeper suppresion)

2. Acting them out, or catharting (dumping)

3. Sublimating them (shunting them as is into creativity)

4. Releasing them (direct letting go, "forgiving," etc.)

5. Felt-experiencing of them

Only # 5, Felt-experiencing of emotions, allows for the fine nuanced emotional experience that is needed to bring about emotional transcendence into ecstasy and experiential creative breakthroughs. Each of the other stances lead away from one or another of the necessary conditions for emotional transcendence.


Emotional Felt-Experiencing

Felt-experiencing of emotions means that instead of suppressing, acting out, sublimating or letting go of emotions, you feel them in a rich, full, deep but subtle, nuanced way in your body. Every emotion has a much richer, fuller, deeper character than what is immediately apparent. This rich, deep texture is present in your body as a subtle feeling sense that you can only experience when you fully feel the emotion but stop charging it up by dramatizing it, and start to focus into its place and feeling-tone in your body. When you do this kind of subtle focusing into your bodily feeling sense, an entirely new range of feeling qualities emerges as the underlying energy or vibration of the original emotion.

In DEPTH Dialogue this takes place through specific guided steps of exploration into your emotions, their nuances, and your bodily feeling sense of their underlying qualities, and nuances of those qualities. This process spontaneously results in dynamic pattern transcendence into ecstasy and creative breakthroughs. This is followed by integration of all that emerges in the exploration into expression, flowing from the underlying feeling qualities.


The Activating Force

This kind of deep, integrative emotional felt-experiencing can only happen when the conditions are right for it to happen. Most people don't just spontaneously open up and reveal their deepest, most intimate feelings. Most people in modern Western societies don't even know they have these deep intimate feelings. There has to be a way of activating the process. There has to be a way of getting something stirring inside that would lead in a feeling way into this deep emotional self-exploration.

In deep Socratic Dialogue - DEPTH Dialogue - this activating force is the relationship between the partners in the dialogue. But, as above, normal everyday experience does not have enough force and scope to bring about the extraordinary circumstances needed for deep emotional transcendence. Only something out of the ordinary can do this. Only a relationship that is out of the ordinary can do this.


Deep Loving Friendship


This will be expanded soon. For now, here is a quick summary of the main points:

The Heart of Dialectic

1. The only force that has the power to really and truly move the soul is the force of "being in love."

2. This force is a frenzy of passion leading to madness if it is not accompanied by discrimination, specifically meaning discrimination of what are true inner feelings and what are not.

3. Through a process of successive finer experiences of the true feeling of being in love (this through Plato's "ladder of love") one eventually arrives at the pure feeling quality of being in love (with no object, just the pure feeling itself.) This is the "vision of pure beauty" which transends all suffering, thereby bestowing true happiness.

4. The feeling of being in love can be synthetically produced by combining the feelings of desire and cherishment. This means that every act, every session, every time DEPTH Dialogue is engaged in, even when there is no feeling of being in love, the power of being in love can be accessed and used - as it needs to be in order for the process to be effective.

5. This love-power is the only force that is strong enough and attractive enough to transcend the limited and limiting ego-self structures and patterns. This is because the ego-self is ferociously guarded by "disintegration anxiety" (what is the common factor in what are called by other names but really are just this one thing - generalized anxiety, "nervousness," PTSD, autism, sensory integration disorder and sensory defensiveness, kundalini experience anxieties, "schizoid" terror, etc.) This force is the feeling we all long for and are moved by in all we do and experience, even if and when it is suppressed or repressed. It is the only force that is more powerful than disintegration anxiety.

6. Disintegration anxiety is not a psychological fault or pathology. It is a dynamic impelling force pushing us to the next level of self-organization. All stages of development have within them dynamic tension that does this. This force is specific to the level of ego consciousness - impelling us to want to and need to transcend beyond ego consciousness (as we naturally do when we have the feeling of "being in love.").

7. This impelling force will not work in us to bring transcendence if it is not properly directed and used. This is the function and necessity of Socratic guidance. Specifically, the love-power needs to be evoked and activated, then it needs to be discriminated as a true inner feeling (distinct from the frenzy of passion), and finally it needs to be brought out into life.

8. This force is naturally evoked in the dialogue relationship. This relationship will only work when the feeling of being love is present - not in the sense of frenzied passion but as discriminating true inner feeling. As this is something that is learned in and through the process of the deep dialogue, at first only the guide has this feeling. For the process to really work, eventually the student must have this feeling toward the guide. In a context of psychotherapy, for instance, this would seem dangerous and imprudent, because of "transference" (i.e. out-of-context unconscious projection of feelings) but the guardian of boundaries in DEPTH Dialogue is not the detached authority stance of psychotherapy but the very strong and fine discrimination in inner feelings that is required for "being in love" to be a true inner feeling and not a passion. This allows for total engagement in the dialogue and in the great intimacy of  relationship that comes from deep dialogue, while maintaining steady and secure boundaries that are even stronger than those produced through detachment and distancing.

Update - July 15, 2006

In the process of discovering the true deep essence of Socratic Dialogue I foundered on this, the very heart of the process, for about the last two years. In the last couple of weeks I have discovered the practical essence of the Socratic deep loving friendship, that makes it the true inner force for the "soul-awakening in beauty" that is the stated aim of Dialectic.

What I found, in the process of actually doing this with people, is that what really and truly makes deep-feeling dialogue (Socratic Dialogue) work to birth the soul in ultimate beauty (the dynamic unique individual Bliss Of Peace) is deep erotic friendship and union.

In this context the erotic element is the essential factor. Love, desire and passion are what fuel the deep transformation that takes place. Without these factors there is not enough power to overcome the old patterns of the former lower state of functioning, especially in terms of wayward and disruptive emotions.

But, the erotic element used here is not itself a wayward or disruptive factor, even though it can be one of the most wayward and disruptive. This is because it is Socratic Eros. What this means is that love, desire and passion are experienced, lived and expressed only through what Socrates called sophrosyne.


Sophrosyne means being true to your inner feeling experience. It is the primary principle of the dynamic living morality that Socrates taught - which is quite different from the static morality of rules and laws. It means that you don't automatically act on your feelings, emotions and impulses but that you gain the sure habit of always checking with your inner knowingness for whether what you are feeling at any given moment is a true feeling. Until we gain that habit, most of what we experience as feelings, desires and love are not true feelings but just how we have been "programmed" to respond - like rats in a lab experiment. But when we do have that habit we have a sure and steady compass for all we experience, feel and do.

So, the erotic friendship comes from Socratic Eros in Sophrosyne. It brings all the force and power of the deepest feelings and emotions that we have to bear on the transformational process, but does it in a way that is not wayward or disruptive - because the sure habit of sophrosyne is a steady compass for what is right and true at every single moment.

In practice, this means that the erotic nature of the friendship does not play out as a sexual or sensual relationship. These elements are not sublimated, in the Freudian sense. Instead, the habit of sophrosyne constantly checks back inside as to the truthfulness of all feelings and impulses. The sexual and sensual expression of Eros is simply not found to be true to the real inner feeling. With this degree of truthfulness, there is freedom for the full force of Eros to come through in the relationship without it being in any way disruptive or destructive.

In the dialogue relationship that brings about deep transformation into soul-birth in beauty, it is not necessary that both parties have this habit of Eros in Sophrosyne. It is only necessary that the guide has it. The "student" is led into that by the relationship with the guide. Soul-Birth in Beauty is actually, then, also birth into Eros in Sophrosyne.

Erotic union -  in Sophrosyne - is what brings the little hidden spark of Soul that is in the student into birth. The guide actually joins with the student on the inner plane, becomes one with him there as Soul, and from that union comes the eventual soul-birth. From there on this has to be nurtured, and the process is carried forward in this nurturing. It is all a process of Eros in Sophrosyne.

True Loving Friendship is a deep relationship of Eros in Sophrosyne. This is the essential factor that brings about the deep experiential transformation that is the aim of Dialectic.

(I have discovered how to do this, and I am now doing it with people, with great success. See my Soul-Birth website.


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